Thursday, April 14, 2016

Debate - Thiel vs Sacca

DealBook Conference 2015, Venture Capital and Where it's going
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54NIcx3HJSE

Thiel

  • Yahoo wanted to buy Facebook in 2006 for 1B, Zuckerberg said NO, Thiel said MAYBE
    • Founder CEO vs Professional CEO 
    • Mark Zuckerberg did not want to sell because he didn't know what to do with ~250million - 'start another social network?! I am happy with what I have'
    • Some of the new features being developed were not valued properly
  • Why not invested in Tesla?
    • We had a bias toward cleantech in 2005-2008
    • Valuation were inflated and people were very crazy, a lot of insanity around it at the time
    • Tesla is one company that worked 
  • Investing in founders, ideas, business strategy - package deal
    • I like companies that are extremely mission driven
  • Personalities (founders) are very extreme
    • There is misprice on these people 
    • 'I cant wait for him to fail'
    • they are portrayed more evil then they are
  • Are we in a private tech bubble?
    • Valuations are high
    • We are not near 1999-2000 levels
    • If there is bubble it is not in tech
    • If public involved then it is a bubble
  • Uber - the most ethically challenged company in SV
    • how much and how far you push the envelope
    • how much you break the law
    • Napster pushed too far
    • Uber is a little bit corrupt
  • High compensation in startups - red flag
  • General investor question - Fundamental and contrarian?
  • It is always bad to be a 'me too' company
Sacca

  • FB wanted to buy Twitter for 0.7B
  • Investors sometimes do not process how much passion from Founders drives companies and you cannot trade that
  • There was a cleantech bubble
  • 11 of unicorns
  • Why the investment worked?
    • Founders talk about of INEVITABILITY of success of the company since Day 1
    • No conditionality, only Future Simple Tense
  • Gender discrimination
    • Companies are run by white guys
    • We should start educating women since early age 
    • Guy are taught since early age how to bluff, pitch, and sell
    • Linguistic barrier - we end sentence on upbeat in Silicon Valley which implies 'are you with me?'
    • 'Can a good man become a great man' - bullshit question
    • It is going to take decade to unravel this
  • Lyft goes away

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